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Caius chokes Tanya but is stopped by Kate and Garrett. Tanya and Potunga are then welcomed by Kate to behead Caius, and Potunga holds his lower jaw down while Tanya pulls his upper jaw up, beheading him. Draco of the Greeks charged at the Denalis, only die in the same way.

Later on, Lucius died as well. Infuriated by the number of losses that his coven has taken, Xenon charges at Kyran and Alisya , whom he beheads.

He then chokes Kyran only to be kicked by Jimmy towards Jayma , whom uses her power to hold him down. Kyran then walks up and partially decapitates him. Stefan , Dacian , his sister Dacitza , and Vladimir , four Army crew who greatly despise the Volturi, charge at Marcus , a Volturi elder, who openly welcomes his death as the four of them easily sever his body; which is then burned by Dacian.

Aro, infuriated by his amount of losses, finally joins the fight. Edward notices this and begins to charge toward him, as does Bella. Before Bella can attack Aro, he delivers a blow that sends her flying across the battleground into Edward's arms. A brief two-on-one scuffle dazes him for a moment and Edward then attempts to kill Aro himself only to be outperformed when Aro turns around and tries to behead him.

Bella attacks Aro again, saving Edward from being beheaded. With the help of Edward, Bella is able to finally behead Aro. Thank you for following the rules of this page, KyranEllis.

The Twilight Fanon Wiki Explore. Random page. Recent blog posts. I think she was showing him. I agree. Alice was showing Aro the future if he chose to fight. It was not a vision from Aro. His gift is mind reading. As this is the case, there should be no wolves or hybrid children visible in that scene. Yeah in the book stephe pointed out that Aro imagines the odds of them winning basically not a vision just him imagining it.

Pretty much! The books are just bases off the movie and its just what people think about the movie. He back down because they prove to him that Nes was no harm to their kind even though she is part human. Even when she is using her shield to defend someone else, she has a secondary shield protecting her from attacks as well. The shield retracts when she is distracted, leaving the person she was protecting defenseless. However, my theory is that when the hybrids are mixed in with the vampires, then she can see them.

For example, the fight scene. And when Jacob and Renesmee were running away from Santiago, he was a vampire. So I think they have to be mixed, to see the hybrids that way. She was with plenty of vampires then. Bella only survived because she drank the blood and Alice made the statement before she drank the blood. I agree with what was said about Alice being able to see Jacob in her visions.

It could also be that since Jacob imprinted on Renesmee, or it could be a contributing factor as to why, she can now see him in her visions. Alice stopped seeing Bella rescued from the cliff dive because Jake was the one doing the rescuing. There is no sign in the any of the books that this changes at any point. Q: what is the exception at the end of breaking dawn part 2? Q: can renesemee and Jacob have childern. The wolves imprint on whoever gives them the best chance at continuing the line.

Aro reads thoughts…. Aro reads every thought your mind has ever had instantly. He would know if Alice made up a scenario. How does Charlie not notice that Nessie is a full sized child at Christmas when she was a baby a few months before?

He notices. So it could have been a year or two, for all we know. Bu also in the movie Alice tells Bella happy Bday. But we know that bells gave birth and started her transition into vampire 3 days before her birthday her birthday is on September The fight scene reinforced two things: 1 that it was in fact a good idea to split BD into two films, 2 those character building moments — especially for the Volturi and the pack — from New Moon and Eclipse were crucial to making the fight as meaningful as it was.

Charlie does notice Nessie grew. And then everything turns. They do. They outnumber you. They would win. But they would be decimated. You can read his explanation on pages So it is there, as Stephenie said.

I remember that too! I think they really could have taken them out. It kind of hurts my heart to even start considering it! I agree with the answers you gave on the first 2 questions.

Great answers! I totally got the Marcus thing and suddenly his attitude through the entire series made sense. It was a great line! But now that she is, she has no trouble looking into their future. OR 2 it was partially a vision where she could see the vampires and simply filled in the blanks with the werewolves.

I think the third option is the only plausible explanation. I think that is a great point. Alice has been around the woles a long time and she has had many months to be around Renesmee in the womb and after being born. Also Renesmee lets her into her mind so that may have helped Alice develop her vision with her in it. But I do remember in the book she found the other hybrid by looing for holes in her vision around the world. But your explanation can work for the movie.

I like this theory. I never saw the ending vision as out of place really. She imagined it in her head that way. It was a trick—and the Aro fell for it. It all goes back to the message of the book that it would take intelligence, not physical power, to save the family.

I knew something was up because the one time we saw what Alice did is when she was with Aro. New Moon. Your third question is definitely the big one, Lori. In the books they talk at length about strategy — protecting Bella so she can focus on neutralizing Alec and Jane until they are killed, who is going to fight each of the volturi, etc.

So in spite of all that their only strategy is for Carlisle to charge in all by himself just because they are holding Alice? And then Bella and the rest of the crew run in headlong behind him after he is killed? Makes no sense whatsoever and made me reject the entire scene as unbelievable. They were not holding Alice they were going to rip her arms out basically Carlisle is a protective father so for me that was an obvious person to try to defend Alice since jasper was being held.

I think is on her website. I like that is was hard to kill Aro since he had lived more than years and he has always feed from humans. I like that emmet is the one to kill Alec since he is the strongest one of the Cullens. I also liked that Alice knew how to move cause she showed us that in eclipse too. I agree with Stefanie……regardless of whatever strategy they may have planned, that was them planning with the absence of Alice and Jasper. No one knew Alice and Jasper would be coming back.

And for me, once that happened and Carlisle was killed the way everything went to pieces and unfolded was completely believable. I was literally freaking out.

I thought it was absolutely brilliant. They wanted for us to see their happily ever after. This is what I took from watching BD2. Please understand that reading a book and it becoming a movie is two different styles of entertainment. One is imagination and the other is visual. I believe Bill hit it on the head on my imagination and with it came the feelings it provoked by watching it.

So my question has nothing to really do with BD 2 it is really more of a general question…did Alice know that Bella was coming…I mean from the get go. Did Edward see this in her thoughts? If she wasnt focused on Bella she might not have seen her. She wouldnt have seen them together because Edward had not chosen to fall for her, he just wanted to kill her but he was undecided so he left. But she saw Bella a vampire at some point between Edward meeting her and when he finally stopped trying to stay away from her.

If u read Midnight Sun on Stephs website it will explain how Alice did see Bella coming…hope steph finishes that one one day! I think Alice developed her ability. In the film, Bella was sort of forced to develop her ability to shield other due to the unfortunate visit of the Volturi.

Jacob imprinted on Renesmee and was always around the Cullens — this resulted to the development of her ability to see the future. This is why she sees humans and vampires, but nothing else. If this is true, then she could only see the wolves or Renesmee if she became a halfbreed or shapeshifter herself. Other than that, it seems unlikely that she would be able to develop her gift to that extent, no matter how hard she tries.

He wont age as long as there are vampires because they dont stop shifting while vampires are around and since Renesmee is half vampire and he will be around her family , I am guessing that he never ages. Exactly so they will be together forever cause jake will always be around the Cullens.. Always a teenage wolf physically. Lol I meant like Edward being 17 forever I know he is mature at the end he is suppose to look older but just like Bella will always be 18 he is stuck at 16 if I remember correctly right?

In New Moon it explains that when a wolf starts the phasing process they physically mature to full grown he said around 25 within a few months then they stay that way till they stop phasing ofcourse. I love your answers!

My only other question was how Jake could feel and see when Leah howled because Seth died, in the book they were not connected as a pack they were independent, right? So he was linked to Seth and Leah but not the other packs. Although technically Jake and Sam could still communicate, alpha to alpha.

I guess only if you actually burn your self I guess it would be as vampires holding a lighter Ben could do it with his hands tip fingers only maybe.

That would be a good question for Stephanie… since he can control fire it may very well be possible that fire cannot burn him at all unless he allows it. That being said though, the battle could have went way differently…I plan on leaving my thoughts on all the original questions below! Because I find it really stupid how Jacob walked away from the fight like nothing happen an Bella is a newborn vamp yet in Eclipse when Jake gets into a fight with a newborn his left side is damaged.

She was still moderating her strength. He probably got cracked ribs with each punch, but they heal almost instantly too. Remember how Carlisle had to rebreak his bones because they were healing wrong? So she did have some abilities to see futures around them. But the visions is one thing that really throws me off when it comes to book vs. If it was that way, then Alice could conceivably have seen them in the fight in Eclipse, as they were fighting other vampires then, too.

Also, she can normally see the future of humans including Bella so, if that argument worked, then she should have been able to see Jake save Bella when she jumped off the cliff and also her future when Renesmee was inside her.

Alice could not see these things, so this does not explain why she could see the wolves in this scene. That changed the course of events, but by then it was too late to warn Edward, and everyone else was already involved in their own battles. Yes I remember that she can see around them as long as they stay still or something like that I think I mentioned this in another post around here. If you read the books, the reason that Bella wears contacts to meet J.

It makes the most sense. And on the same subject, why was he dropped after the first Twilight? Very curious…thank you! But James was in the credits, and he died in the first one…. Hmm…good question White!! Ben also was not in the movie. Remember it was Angela and Ben, not Angela and Eric. They erased Ben and gave some of his personality to Eric. Quite a few of the cast of the first movie was missing.

Tyler, the teacher, the waitress at the restaurant and Waylon. They totally left out Tyler, the catalyst for their relationship. Wow… they really left out a very important character! In the book when Bella tell Jake to take Nessie and run Edward figures out thats what she was keeping from him and gets to say good bye to Jake and Nessie too. In the book Stephanie does not portray the battle scene per se but just that Aro is figuring the odds in his own mind evaluating each coven and their abilities in his own mind.

That was, I would say, the biggest thing I worked on for two years. He would know: Condon revealed to Vulture that before each movie comes out, Summit calls upon a carefully selected test audience of 75 Twilight super-fans to watch the film in its roughest form, a method that bypasses the traditional test screening audience while also ensuring that the series can get the sort of nips and tweaks that will satisfy faithful Twi-hards.

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